http://www.atheists.org/conference/
It’s just not the same without Madelyn Murray-O’hair….
How many here attended the annual Atheist’s Convention this year?
What does the Geneva Convention say about torture?
http://www.genevaconventions.org/
only a total moron needs a explanation
It’s not allowed under the Geneva Conventions, serious war crime. Even persons who are not entitled to the protections of the 1949 Geneva Conventions (such as some detainees from third countries) are protected by the “fundamental guarantees” of article 75 of Protocol I of 1977 to the Geneva Conventions. The United States has long considered article 75 to be part of customary international law (a widely supported state practice accepted as law). Article 75 prohibits murder, “torture of all kinds, whether physical or mental,” “corporal punishment,” and “outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment, … and any form of indecent assault.”
Other international law confirms. Torture and other mistreatment of persons in custody are also prohibited in all circumstances under international human rights law, which applies in both peacetime and wartime. Among the relevant treaties are the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (arts. 7 & 10) and the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (Convention against Torture), both of which the United States has ratified
International and U.S. law prohibits torture and other ill-treatment of any person in custody in all circumstances. The prohibition applies to the United States during times of peace, armed conflict, or a state of emergency. Any person, whether a U.S. national or a non-citizen, is protected. It is irrelevant whether the detainee is determined to be a prisoner-of-war, a protected person, or a so-called “security detainee” or “unlawful combatant.” And the prohibition is in effect within the territory of the United States or any place anywhere U.S. authorities have control over a person. In short, the prohibition against torture and ill-treatment is absolute.
So if the US finally stops torturing that’s a good thing but it doesn’t make Obama a hero. First off this is not an American favor to the rest of the world. Torturing is not the norm. Not behaving criminally does not make you a hero, that should be considered normal like the fact I don’t rape children does not make me a hero. No reason to praise or worship people for doing what’s only normal. Furthermore Obama and the American government still fail their obligations under International law until all politicians of both corporate parties responsible for these crimes are brought to justice.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AnFH.b6AtBZ64Fi04VFXmJwjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071210103303AAwwFZ2
The only line about Bush in the Obama inauguration speech was to thank him for his "service to the country".
Obama is Bush light.
The most pathetic and despicable role in the glorification of Obama is being played by liberals and "lefts" associated with the Nation and similar publications. Through their campaign for his election and their portrayal of him as the leader of an insurgent movement for "American renewal" they are facilitating the implementation of right-wing policies that would otherwise be politically unfeasible, including the expansion of the war in Afghanistan, trillions more in handouts to the banks and cuts in bedrock social programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
It would, however, be a mistake to believe that the combination of deception and self-inebriation of this opportunist milieu is shared by the working class. It lives in the real world of surging unemployment, poverty and homelessness. Even to the extent that workers have expectations that Obama will realize their aspirations for genuine change, this will not stop them from entering into struggle. And events will, sooner rather than later, shatter their illusions and clarify that the new government is no less their enemy than the old one.
Factcheck.org and politifact.com?
EDIT: The article about "sliming Palin" was from chain e-mails, not the Democrats. It does not refute any of the claims about her flip-flopping on the Bridge to Nowhere. I encourage you to read other articles about both campaigns on the sites. These are directed at McCain’s dishonorable lies.
Lipstick: http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/706/
Palin slips on energy: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/energetically_wrong.html
Palin trips on speech: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html
Do not use your ridiculous Muslim claims to refute these.
JW – Your backward thinking is not consistent with the Democratic Party. Palin SUPPORTED the Bridge while she was campaigning for governor, and it was a major issue then.
Steadway – She only rejected it after Congress threatened to cut off funding. She waited until the very end to flop on the national issue. Now, what about the earmarks she devoured for the most insignificant pursuits?
"The article about "sliming Palin" was from chain e-mails, not the Democrats."
Is that supposed to mean democrats don’t know how to start & spread chain emails?
Now I do think it is fair to say one shouldn’t blame ALL democrats for the smears SOME choose to spread.
Just like Dems shouldn’t blame ALL republcians for the lies SOME spread about Obama. In fact, ifyou check my record, I have discounted the more outrageous lies agaisnt BOTH parties.
Even when they are targetting the candidate I am against. In that case I view them as a distraction from REAL criticisms.
Does Israel have duty to act under the geneva convention?
specifically the 4th that deals with treatment of peoples during an occupation. Gaza and the West Bank are considered occupied territories by many. So does that mean that by that Israel should have to abide by these conditions when it comes to whats happening in Gaza?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth_Geneva_Convention
Hamas isnt occupying anyone so no they dont even come under the 4th geneva convention
no joe in texas they did not leave. there are still settlers moving to the west bank.
but onto gaza considering Israel controls their electricity, amount of aid allowed in, doesnt let any of them out even if they want to go to other countrys it is not all Hamas’ fault. It is both Israel and Hamas’ fault for being brutal against each other. If you honestly think Israel is innocent then youre not even worth argueing with because youre completely blind to whats going on over there
matt d i dont think you understand what im talking about. im talking about the normal people of gaza not hamas
I thought I had an easy answer to this question, then I started looking at the nations that have ratified the Fourth Geneva Conventions… things get "fuzzy" (and lengthy):
"Since 1997 the Arab group at the United Nations has been trying to invoke the Fourth Geneva Convention against Israel, in regard to its settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip…"
"Israel rejects the interpretation of the Fourth Geneva Convention applying it to Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, stating that those territories were captured in 1967 as a result of a defensive war against countries which had illegally occupied them since 1948."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/Human_Rights/geneva.html
"In February 1999, the GA adopted a resolution calling for a special UN session to be held on July 15, 1999, in Geneva to examine "persistent violations" by Israel."
Following is a link regarding that special session, which was boycotted by the US and Israel:
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/geneva99.html
From the Wiki link cited in this question…
"Additional Protocol II of 1977 explicitly forbids collective punishment. But as fewer states have ratified this protocol than GCIV, GCIV Article 33. is the one more commonly quoted."
Concerning Protocol II…
"As of 14 January 2007, the Protocol had been ratified by 163 countries, with the United States, Israel, Iran, Pakistan and Afghanistan and Iraq being notable exceptions. However, the United States, Iran and Pakistan signed it on 12 December 1977 with the intention of ratifying it."
That’s right, Israel has neither signed nor ratified Protocol II.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protocol_II
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I very rarely cite a blog as a reference, but this one was interesting and helpful for Protocol II:
http://takeitpersonally.blogspot.com/2008/01/could-this-be-one-of-reasons-canada-put.html
*** Take it with "a grain of salt", they’re wrong about Canada having declared Israel a "terrorist" nation. One official in 2006 made that remark and I think he was reprimanded.
Why did Republicans tell so many lies during their convention? Doesn’t Truth serve their purposes?
SOURCE: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin.html
Summary:
Joe Lieberman and his former Senate colleague Fred Thompson both made misleading claims about Obama in their prime time GOP convention speeches on Tuesday. We’ve heard two of them before – many times.
Lieberman said Obama hadn’t "reached across party lines" to accomplish "anything significant," though Obama has teamed with GOP Sens. Tom Coburn and Richard Lugar to pass laws enhancing government transparency and curtailing the proliferation of nuclear and conventional weapons.
Thompson repeated misleading claims about Obama’s tax program, saying it would bring "one of the largest tax increases in American history." But as increases go, Obama’s package is hardly a history-maker. It would raise taxes for families with incomes above $250,000. Most people would see a cut.
Lieberman also accused Obama of "voting to cut off funding for our American troops on the battlefield." But Obama’s only vote against a war-funding bill came after Bush vetoed a version of the bill Obama had supported – and McCain urged the veto.
That’s want the GOP is good at lies, rumors, fear tactics and hate mongering. They have to lie to get votes. The GOP work on people fears and prejudice. They have been in power for eight years and don’t want to give it up. They have to lie to win. (=
Do you know why the Democratic Convention will be a mess in Denver??
This organization is already planning on making the Convention a circus http://www.recreate68.org/ What impact do you think this will have? Will this be a positive impression of the Democrats?? Who will benefit?
What impact do you think this will have? Absolute chaos for all of America to witness.
Will this be a positive impression of the Democrats? Absolutely not.
Who will benefit? John S. McCain.
Why isn’t the floorplan for Room W302 available on the Orange County Convention Center’s Website?
http://www.occc.net/planner/OverviewFloorPlans.asp
http://www.lcms.org/graphics/assets/media/Witness/Sep04.pdf
This room is sacred ground, and is not advertised to the public at large.
If you need specifications on this room please dial 321-235-****.
does anyone know where i can get a axle costume or directions on how to make one( kingdom hearts org. 13)???
does anyone know where i can get a axle costume or directions on how to make one( kingdom hearts org. 13)???
i want to dress up for the anime convention as axle from orginization 13 and halloween if possible does anyone know how to make a costume or where i can buy a pretty cheep one ( besides e-bay or amazon) and if you dont know axle he is from kingdom hearts
please i am desprate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!… i really dont know if anyone knows i need help please
+ does anyone have any ideas on what i could be for halloween ? thenx for your answers ^ ^
XD I am making a roxas costume if you are looking the bast place to look would be Cosplay.com ^^
Should we have a Constitutional Convention to propose a Congressional term limit amendment to the Constitution?
Mainly because Congress itself would never pass a law limiting their own power and terms in office?
The numbers show that the states and the people want term limits. 15 out of 50 states have state legislator term limits and the trend is growing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Term_limits_in_the_United_States#State_term_limits
If at least two-thirds of the legislatures of the states so request, Congress is required to call a convention for the purpose of proposing amendments.
After being officially proposed, a constitutional amendment must then be ratified by the legislatures of, or by conventions in, at least three-fourths of the states. It is not mandatory that amendments proposed by Congress be ratified by legislatures nor is it mandatory that amendments proposed by a national convention be ratified by state conventions;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Five_of_the_United_States_Constitution
Phillip, a Constitutional Convention can be limited in scope to one or several issues up for amendment.
I 100% agree with term limits. The problem is incumbents have way more money than their challengers, which in turn lets them spew out more rhetoric of whatever the majority of people want to hear. Politicians were supposed to BE the people not politicians representing the people.
Is factcheck.org a "Liberal Media" outlet?
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/gop_convention_spin_part_ii.html
MAN! Look at all those sources at the bottom.
People are ALOT more astute here than in "elections"!!!!
No. In fact, The most recent Factcheck.org article debunks smears against Sarah Palin. No "liberal" website would defend Palin this way. Factcheck.org is independent and very fair.