Fortunately, the … Fortunately, the Hall is very solid and there is no real floor vibration. No lightning issues at the hall. The primary blower room is actually under the stage. The others are spread throught the hall. The blowers are started by a motor starter panel next to the main console. They can be individually started in each blower room.
We used the 64ft … We used the 64ft last week during a tour. No, the hall does not shake and it you do not feel sick. Work is progressing on both organs. The new Peterson relay for the Kimball is being wired in to the chambers and we may be able to use it with a laptop and midi before the console is returned from rebuilding. The ML in the arena has, in addition to the 64′ 10 32′ stops. You will feel wind from the mouth of the very large pipes when the are played. The 64′ is on 35 inches of wind.
I used run a 1 M … I used run a 1 M gallon municipal pool and those look much like our pump motors. I can imagine what it feels like standing near them as the cement floor literally shakes you up to your eyeballs. We had lightning issues being at the top of a mountain so we had huge isolation capacitors. It phased the circuits by discharging the capacitors in sequence. Prior to installing the TPI units, we would loose function with the smallest power glitch. Not good if you need to turn 1M gallons in 8 hours.
ok, to anyone who’s … ok, to anyone who’s heard the 64foot stops recently, what it’s like? i’ve never heard a 64er myself, does it shake thee entire hall? and it’s a big hall too? i’ve heard it makes people feel nausus? do the seats shake?
THe 100 inch is 50 … THe 100 inch is 50 HP, the others are 75 HP and 100 HP. They start up on Westinghouse variable frequency starters. There are 7 blowers total of 600 HP. There is a 5 HP motor for the DC generator, 143 Amps at 14 Volts. The Kimball has a 30 HP motor for the primary Spencer blower and a 5 HP motor for the booster blower for the tuba. The Kimball power supply is solid state.
The sounds you hear … The sounds you hear are the motors being started across-the-line. The 100 inch blower motor is a 2 pole 3 phase motor probably 60 or 75 HP 3 phase operating at 3550 RPM. The other 2 motors are probably 75 or 100 HP and run about 1775 RPM. The long windup is due to the mass inertia of the blowers themselves.
Actually, the ” … Actually, the “torque converters” simply vibration isolators common in such installations. Modern solid state motor controllers for three phase motors allow you to
adjust the start-up rate and final run rate by
varying the frequency of the AC being fed into
the motor.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
the man with the …
the man with the white hemd is standing funny !
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
das ist einzigartig …
das ist einzigartig !
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I have read a joke …
I have read a joke that the organist would call the power company just before the concert due to the organ’s power requirements.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
good sound!
good sound!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
is this organ not …
is this organ not functional at the moment? just curious?? please reply back
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
4200 horsepower …
4200 horsepower total? My God!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Wow how many RPM …
Wow how many RPM and what torque? Do they start on one voltage but run on another?
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
What voltage(s) do …
What voltage(s) do the motors run at? 416, 480, 4160? or something else?
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Very impressive. …
Very impressive. Bet they drain the national electricity grid!!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I’d be afraid of …
I’d be afraid of one flying apart. That would not be too pretty either. Seriously, very impressive. Thanks for posting!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The rubber things …
The rubber things on the shaft are flexible couplers to take care of vibration isolation and any minor alignment problems.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
what are those …
what are those rubber things on the shaft for?
and i really like the wind up of the low pressure one
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
it is good to have …
it is good to have an update…… thanks
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Perhaps the motors …
Perhaps the motors are on soft-start controllers as well?
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Being fed into …
Being fed into these blowers would give you a very bad day.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The original motors …
The original motors were DC. A lot of the hall was DC when built. There were rotary converters in the Hall.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Fortunately, the …
Fortunately, the Hall is very solid and there is no real floor vibration. No lightning issues at the hall. The primary blower room is actually under the stage. The others are spread throught the hall. The blowers are started by a motor starter panel next to the main console. They can be individually started in each blower room.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
We used the 64ft …
We used the 64ft last week during a tour. No, the hall does not shake and it you do not feel sick. Work is progressing on both organs. The new Peterson relay for the Kimball is being wired in to the chambers and we may be able to use it with a laptop and midi before the console is returned from rebuilding. The ML in the arena has, in addition to the 64′ 10 32′ stops. You will feel wind from the mouth of the very large pipes when the are played. The 64′ is on 35 inches of wind.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I used run a 1 M …
I used run a 1 M gallon municipal pool and those look much like our pump motors. I can imagine what it feels like standing near them as the cement floor literally shakes you up to your eyeballs. We had lightning issues being at the top of a mountain so we had huge isolation capacitors. It phased the circuits by discharging the capacitors in sequence. Prior to installing the TPI units, we would loose function with the smallest power glitch. Not good if you need to turn 1M gallons in 8 hours.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
ok, to anyone who’s …
ok, to anyone who’s heard the 64foot stops recently, what it’s like? i’ve never heard a 64er myself, does it shake thee entire hall? and it’s a big hall too? i’ve heard it makes people feel nausus? do the seats shake?
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
THe 100 inch is 50 …
THe 100 inch is 50 HP, the others are 75 HP and 100 HP. They start up on Westinghouse variable frequency starters. There are 7 blowers total of 600 HP. There is a 5 HP motor for the DC generator, 143 Amps at 14 Volts. The Kimball has a 30 HP motor for the primary Spencer blower and a 5 HP motor for the booster blower for the tuba. The Kimball power supply is solid state.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
The sounds you hear …
The sounds you hear are the motors being started across-the-line. The 100 inch blower motor is a 2 pole 3 phase motor probably 60 or 75 HP 3 phase operating at 3550 RPM. The other 2 motors are probably 75 or 100 HP and run about 1775 RPM. The long windup is due to the mass inertia of the blowers themselves.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Amazing!
Amazing!
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
Actually, the ” …
Actually, the “torque converters” simply vibration isolators common in such installations. Modern solid state motor controllers for three phase motors allow you to
adjust the start-up rate and final run rate by
varying the frequency of the AC being fed into
the motor.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I maybe mixed …
I maybe mixed something up with that. But it is just enormous to hear that big electric engines.