I’m an Obama … I’m an Obama Democrat, but what Lindsey Graham said, and I mean every word, is true. Problem is, his own Administration, Gonzales, Addington, Yoo, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others, with the Unitary Presidency Theory that the President can authorize anything he wants (with Bybee and Yoo agreeing by penning that the new definition of torture), and exporting torture to Gitmo and Iraq, I’m not so sure he realizes that talking about being honorable is one thing. Doing it is quite another. We didn’t.
No…American’s get … No…American’s get summary executions if caught by the taliban. In COMPLETE violation of the Second Additional Protocol of the Geneva Conventions (1977). Graham is a lawyer…don’t call one when the crap hits the fan…call a Marine.
Graham is a fool. … Graham is a fool. By his own words 2:02 he says that the taliban butcher our people. This isn’t a state run military versus another state military. These are non-affiliated terrorists. I would have asked Graham when we can expect some type of POW exchange with the taliban. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
I thought we … I thought we weren’t obligated by the Geneva conventions? What about the Hague conventions? Those are the ones that regard “treatment of prisoners of war” I believe.
how did this guy … how did this guy get so influenceal with view like morality i thort peolpe like him wer tried as witches in that country. good luck man ur the first moral american politiction iv ever herd of and i hope you NOT are asasenated for trason
if america wants to … if america wants to lead the world then they should start with leading by morality eg making rules wer CIA’s are not alowed to tourter criminals by LAW. this protects their agents as they carnt be tried for somthing they havent done. TRI all criminals fiarly and listen to him, then the world will start t respect u , prove ur better then the tailiban, we need proof
How can the GOP … How can the GOP stand to have GWB as their figurehead when there are genuinely moral Americans like this guy in ‘the ranks’ ? Impressive and, quite frankly, moving.
Torture is just … Torture is just immoral and completely wrong and like any thing that is wrong people will try to justify it and say it is okay, like a teenager steeling from a department store and saying it won’t hurt the corporation.
And to this notion that we have never faced an enemy like the terrorists today, what about the Japanese camacazy in WWII and thier torture? This isn’t a political issue, it’s a moral one.
Agents can never be … Agents can never be prosecuted for War Crimes, and never lose anything. There is no jurisdiction greater than US courts and would never hand them over. Every country can & does define these obligations whenever necessary. He is speaking of the nation-state, of rational individuals, and the terrorists are not part of this argument and should not be considered protected by the Geneva Convention. The Iranians can and would do what it wanted and not give a moment’s thought to the Geneva Convention.
The -head gave … The -head gave in to the right wing power base. Its now legal to torture prisoners of war. Kudos to the right wing. I HATE BUSH!!!! Some one should pull the hairs off of his nuts.
Sen. Graham (R-SC) delivers a thoughtful and principled defense of the Geneva Conventions.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
I’m an Obama …
I’m an Obama Democrat, but what Lindsey Graham said, and I mean every word, is true. Problem is, his own Administration, Gonzales, Addington, Yoo, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and others, with the Unitary Presidency Theory that the President can authorize anything he wants (with Bybee and Yoo agreeing by penning that the new definition of torture), and exporting torture to Gitmo and Iraq, I’m not so sure he realizes that talking about being honorable is one thing. Doing it is quite another. We didn’t.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
No…American’s get …
No…American’s get summary executions if caught by the taliban. In COMPLETE violation of the Second Additional Protocol of the Geneva Conventions (1977). Graham is a lawyer…don’t call one when the crap hits the fan…call a Marine.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Graham is a fool. …
Graham is a fool. By his own words 2:02 he says that the taliban butcher our people. This isn’t a state run military versus another state military. These are non-affiliated terrorists. I would have asked Graham when we can expect some type of POW exchange with the taliban. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
O: nothing wrong …
O: nothing wrong with his reasoning excpet that he is setting the stage for Americans to be tortured if captured.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Amen! loved the …
Amen! loved the last bit
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Thank you Sen. …
Thank you Sen. Graham for standing up for what is right even when it’s not popular.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
are you sure about …
are you sure about that honey?
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Graham you dont …
Graham you dont have to worry, you wont be in your job next week, by by.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
This guy is a shoe …
This guy is a shoe tapper, you’ll find him in the next stall by Larry Craig. Hey Lindsey get out of the closet you pole smoker.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
I thought we …
I thought we weren’t obligated by the Geneva conventions? What about the Hague conventions? Those are the ones that regard “treatment of prisoners of war” I believe.
Are we obligated by those?
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Lindsey Graham is …
Lindsey Graham is so cute!!
I love his voice!!
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Lindsey Graham is …
Lindsey Graham is one of the only politicians
I believe is a sensible person.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
how did this guy …
how did this guy get so influenceal with view like morality i thort peolpe like him wer tried as witches in that country. good luck man ur the first moral american politiction iv ever herd of and i hope you NOT are asasenated for trason
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
if america wants to …
if america wants to lead the world then they should start with leading by morality eg making rules wer CIA’s are not alowed to tourter criminals by LAW. this protects their agents as they carnt be tried for somthing they havent done. TRI all criminals fiarly and listen to him, then the world will start t respect u , prove ur better then the tailiban, we need proof
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Do you like taxes? …
Do you like taxes? If your answer is no, then you’re a hypocritical . If your answer is yes, then screw you.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
America would be …
America would be better with only right-wing politicians
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
A sensible right …
A sensible right wing American! I can’t believe it!
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Republicans should …
Republicans should have every bone in their body broken and left for the piles of they are.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
How can the GOP …
How can the GOP stand to have GWB as their figurehead when there are genuinely moral Americans like this guy in ‘the ranks’ ? Impressive and, quite frankly, moving.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
im impressed with …
im impressed with him
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
I Republican with a …
I Republican with a heart God there is hope!
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Torture is just …
Torture is just immoral and completely wrong and like any thing that is wrong people will try to justify it and say it is okay, like a teenager steeling from a department store and saying it won’t hurt the corporation.
And to this notion that we have never faced an enemy like the terrorists today, what about the Japanese camacazy in WWII and thier torture? This isn’t a political issue, it’s a moral one.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
Agents can never be …
Agents can never be prosecuted for War Crimes, and never lose anything. There is no jurisdiction greater than US courts and would never hand them over. Every country can & does define these obligations whenever necessary. He is speaking of the nation-state, of rational individuals, and the terrorists are not part of this argument and should not be considered protected by the Geneva Convention. The Iranians can and would do what it wanted and not give a moment’s thought to the Geneva Convention.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
The -head gave …
The -head gave in to the right wing power base. Its now legal to torture prisoners of war. Kudos to the right wing. I HATE BUSH!!!! Some one should pull the hairs off of his nuts.
August 22nd, 2009 at 12:30 am
damn right!
right!